Discounted Laser Printers Okidata 62441001 Wireless Color Photo Printer with Scanner, Copier and Fax
List Price : $1,699.00
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Product Details
- Brand: Oki Data
- Model: C831n
- Original language: English
- Number of items: 1
- Dimensions: 14.20" h x 17.60" w x 21.70" l, 81.60 pounds
- Battery type: Lithium Ion
- Display size: 2
Features
- Print Letter/A4 up to 35ppm color and mono, Tabloid/A3 up to 20ppm
- Long-lasting 30,000-page image drum
- Paper capacity up to 1,460 sheets
- High-capacity 10,000-page toner cartridges
- ENERGY STAR Compliant
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Product Description
Tabloid/A3 Color Printers with compact design, media versatility, and incomparable print quality
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Centering Issues
By I.A.
The listing incorrectly states this is Wireless/Scanner, but if you are buying a $1700 printer, you probably know the specs already. The unit I received from Amazon came beat up. I think the box is not enough protection for the horrors of UPS moving around a sensitive 90lbs package. The print quality was amazing, however it didn't like ImageClip Laser Light Heat transfer paper so much, all other paper, including the extremely heavyweight A3 photo paper (Graytex only manufacturer of this) worked like a charm.
However, nothing would print centered, and the centering differed by 2mm between the Multi-Purpose Tray, and the default tray for light papers. The x-adjust, and setting margins were of no use because of this. I spent 3 solid days trying to solve the problems before returning it. Oki's customer support is the best, and it is easy to get through to them and speak with someone natively North American after only 10 seconds and 3 options. There is no automated voice purgatory with Oki.
The best guess from support was that it could have been damaged in shipping, and this seems to make a lot of sense. It was a nightmare for me, and support trying to figure out all the conflicting information. It was hard at first to determine if it was a hardware or software issue. One good benefit of buying an Oki is that the told Apple to politely f-off when it comes to their driver update monopoly through the Mac App Store. With other manufacturers, notably Epson, you cannot downgrade or play around with the drivers once Mountain Lion updates it. This is because the manufacturers don't want you using 3rd party inks, and the updates usually are just to break this functionality. They remove the older drivers from their site, and unless you saved the older drivers (and the hidden files), you are screwed. With Oki, you have the opposite problem. You have different driver versions released at different times throughout the world. So when testing my issues, I installed newer drivers, and older drivers for the model from other Oki country sites. This helped troubleshooting a lot.
Unfortunately the problem was the same in XP, Vista, OSX 10.8.5, and OSX 10.8.2. It did not matter what driver or OS, it printed 7mm too far to the right, and 4mm too low. This is outside the X and Y adjust firmware tolerances which can account for only -2mm and +2mm. Of course setting the margins in the software works, but you experience weird clipping bugs sometimes, and it just makes for a miserable experience. It would be possible to deal with, except that the MP Tray and the Default Tray were both doing different things despite having perfect alignment when fed (I tested them thoroughly).
Other caveats of this model...They only ship it with 256mb of ram, which is standard for this class for printer, but it is an annoying attempt at a cash grab. You can upgrade the ram from Oki to the max for $200, or on the after market for $80, but there is no guarantee via the latter method for this model. This doesn't come into play at all if you are printing vector stuff, but if you are printing raster posters you are not going to be able to print anything more than 150mb file. This means you need to save all your tiffs as jpegs. At A3 size, this is not going to make a difference in quality if you save a tiff as a maximum quality jpeg, but it's another step you need to take if you want to print. A 250mb tiff compresses to about 25mb for a maximum quality jpeg.
Also, again, it is not wireless. You have the option of cat-5 or usb. Wireless connectivity would be nice with a beast like this printer. It is extremely compact for its class, but it does take up some room. Not having the flexibility of wireless is not a plus. It also only does A3 size, which is less than other printers in its class which can do .31 inches wider at 12x18. There aren't too many products sized 12x18, but there is photo paper, and there are some heat transfers. If you are printing transfers, flyers, or posters, every millimeter matters. I don't know of any wider format laser printers, at least that cost less than a new car. If they had one that was 24 inches, I would say "Shut-up and take my money" even if it were $25k.
Verdict: If you are looking for a good color laser printer, this is probably it if you can find one that prints bang on the money. Xerox prints too hot for, transfer papers, HP is all gloss for the n00b user, Samsungs aren't made for pro's in mind, and Ricoh is probably the only real competition in this <$3k color laser class.
Can't wait for my replacement to come, and I hope UPS doesn't roll it off a cliff this time! Would be 4.5 stars if it printed perfectly.
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0 of 0 people found the following review helpful.
By I.A.
The listing incorrectly states this is Wireless/Scanner, but if you are buying a $1700 printer, you probably know the specs already. The unit I received from Amazon came beat up. I think the box is not enough protection for the horrors of UPS moving around a sensitive 90lbs package. The print quality was amazing, however it didn't like ImageClip Laser Light Heat transfer paper so much, all other paper, including the extremely heavyweight A3 photo paper (Graytex only manufacturer of this) worked like a charm.
However, nothing would print centered, and the centering differed by 2mm between the Multi-Purpose Tray, and the default tray for light papers. The x-adjust, and setting margins were of no use because of this. I spent 3 solid days trying to solve the problems before returning it. Oki's customer support is the best, and it is easy to get through to them and speak with someone natively North American after only 10 seconds and 3 options. There is no automated voice purgatory with Oki.
The best guess from support was that it could have been damaged in shipping, and this seems to make a lot of sense. It was a nightmare for me, and support trying to figure out all the conflicting information. It was hard at first to determine if it was a hardware or software issue. One good benefit of buying an Oki is that the told Apple to politely f-off when it comes to their driver update monopoly through the Mac App Store. With other manufacturers, notably Epson, you cannot downgrade or play around with the drivers once Mountain Lion updates it. This is because the manufacturers don't want you using 3rd party inks, and the updates usually are just to break this functionality. They remove the older drivers from their site, and unless you saved the older drivers (and the hidden files), you are screwed. With Oki, you have the opposite problem. You have different driver versions released at different times throughout the world. So when testing my issues, I installed newer drivers, and older drivers for the model from other Oki country sites. This helped troubleshooting a lot.
Unfortunately the problem was the same in XP, Vista, OSX 10.8.5, and OSX 10.8.2. It did not matter what driver or OS, it printed 7mm too far to the right, and 4mm too low. This is outside the X and Y adjust firmware tolerances which can account for only -2mm and +2mm. Of course setting the margins in the software works, but you experience weird clipping bugs sometimes, and it just makes for a miserable experience. It would be possible to deal with, except that the MP Tray and the Default Tray were both doing different things despite having perfect alignment when fed (I tested them thoroughly).
Other caveats of this model...They only ship it with 256mb of ram, which is standard for this class for printer, but it is an annoying attempt at a cash grab. You can upgrade the ram from Oki to the max for $200, or on the after market for $80, but there is no guarantee via the latter method for this model. This doesn't come into play at all if you are printing vector stuff, but if you are printing raster posters you are not going to be able to print anything more than 150mb file. This means you need to save all your tiffs as jpegs. At A3 size, this is not going to make a difference in quality if you save a tiff as a maximum quality jpeg, but it's another step you need to take if you want to print. A 250mb tiff compresses to about 25mb for a maximum quality jpeg.
Also, again, it is not wireless. You have the option of cat-5 or usb. Wireless connectivity would be nice with a beast like this printer. It is extremely compact for its class, but it does take up some room. Not having the flexibility of wireless is not a plus. It also only does A3 size, which is less than other printers in its class which can do .31 inches wider at 12x18. There aren't too many products sized 12x18, but there is photo paper, and there are some heat transfers. If you are printing transfers, flyers, or posters, every millimeter matters. I don't know of any wider format laser printers, at least that cost less than a new car. If they had one that was 24 inches, I would say "Shut-up and take my money" even if it were $25k.
Verdict: If you are looking for a good color laser printer, this is probably it if you can find one that prints bang on the money. Xerox prints too hot for, transfer papers, HP is all gloss for the n00b user, Samsungs aren't made for pro's in mind, and Ricoh is probably the only real competition in this <$3k color laser class.
Can't wait for my replacement to come, and I hope UPS doesn't roll it off a cliff this time! Would be 4.5 stars if it printed perfectly.
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Great printer!
Horrible software. Horrible scanning speed.
Good color laser printer